Ok Boys... settle.

Two other stories for the collection, both from The Age.

Forgotten themes

Here's an unavoidable truth: the price of oil and all of its byproducts will continue to rise. And that's before we even begin an emissions trading scheme, which is guaranteed to lift all energy prices even more and further transform the ways we all do business. And that's why the ridiculous "debate" about the respective merits of the excise cut proposal and FuelWatch has been such a woeful waste of time, energy, public attention and — for the Government and the Opposition — political capital.

And one that might interest Boof

Scientists oppose SA desalination plans

A PLANT to keep a Greg Norman-branded golf course green is one of three desalination proposals in South Australia causing scientific and public concern.

The second desalination plant is proposed by BHP Billiton in the upper reaches of Spencer Gulf to feed its expanded Olympic Dam uranium mine.

posted to EB

I was just about to post the second of those links into the weekend BullRoarer.

I too figured Boof would be interested in it - and even though he is a hopeless nuclear power acolyte yearning for the 1950s I'm not annoyed with him in the slightest - compared to DaveMart he's positively charming :-)

Yes, Well, until we build that nuclear power plant we are going to have to rely on coal to generate the power to desalinate that water to mine the uranium... what better reason do you need Gav ;-)

I'm thinking that Nuclear will not "win" (well not without Gov intervention) purely because of the lead times involved.

Just as the humble FAX conquered the world with all it's flaws, wind and solar, with all there "flaws" can be up and running faster. In the time it would take to design, feasibility study, environmental impact assess, finance, build and commission a nuclear plant... smaller alternatives, will incrementally be built. This will not "solve" the "problem", some adaption will be required. But... the technology that is available in 2-5 years will succeed over that which requires 10 to build.

However, don't be surprised to see Ruddite man make "the hard choice", in the interests of "working families" of course (or some such) and adopt nuclear.

Yes - I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him with my left hand.

Its all about cosy deals with big donors - and f*** the environment and what the punters would prefer...